Planned Parenthood and Blatant Racism February 29, 2008
Posted by Paul Edwards in Abortion, Planned Parenthood, Racism.trackback
A shocking set of recordings was released this week that could prove disastrous for Planned Parenthood’s ties with the African-American community. Lila Rose, a pro-life student and reporter at UCLA, launched an undercover investigation aimed at exposing the racism of the nation’s largest abortion merchant. With the help of an actor, she contacted Planned Parenthood clinics in seven states, inquiring if they would be willing to accept a donation earmarked for the abortion of black babies. The results were jaw-dropping.
Rose was appalled to discover that every last clinic agreed. Not one employee objected or questioned the request, even when the actor insisted that the purpose was to “lower the number of black people” in America. When the caller phoned an Ohio branch, he was told that Planned Parenthood “will accept the money for whatever reason.”
Lila Rose’s audio montage is below:
Well seeing as Margaret Sanger was a Gnostic, Hitler admiring rascist this makes perfect sense. I bet we will see them try and spin this as “we do more black abortions because we are helping ‘underprivledged women’ who would otherwise be burdened financially by a child have the option of ‘terminating’ a pregnancy”.
No spinning is needed, but an apology and the termination of a reporter are. I think this says more about Lila Rose and this actor than it says about anyone else, and any newspaper that would hire her has no more ethics than the National Enquirer.
For Planned Parenthood to accept funds for a needy person, be they minority or not, does not make them racist. Rest assured, the African-American community is going to see this cheap stunt for what it is.
Seriously, Paul, you should drop this thing from your website. There are credible, dignified, and respectful arguments to be made in opposition to abortion, but you’re a better person than to align your self with this kind of racist garbage.
And I do mean racist. If the makers of this commercial think they can create racial tensions with this [expletive deleted by moderator], then they clearly believe black people are all idiots.
Skeptimal,
So Planned Parenthood is proven to still retain the roots of it’s rascist founder Margarat Sanger, regardless of how the current operators rationalize it, and therefore the people who expose it are the rascists? How does that make sense? No obviously Planned Parenthood thinks that black people are idiots if they constantly market towards them and do not immediately report someone with dangerous rascist idealogies to the authorities, but rather take money from them!
Skeptimal (and any others bent on defending PP),
The donor made his intentions very clear. He was not giving the money to help an underpriviledged minority. He specifically asked if his donation would be accepted and used solely for the abortion of black babies so that his own (white) son would have less competition because of affirmative action. Planned Parenthood, not once, but at least EIGHT TIMES at EIGHT DIFFERENT CHAPTERS gladly received his donation with his stipulations.
It is not Lila Rose who is racist. It isn’t the YouTube video that’s racist. It is Planned Parenthood who is racist!
Is PP really racist or is it just like any other organization that is not based on God’s truth? PP was probably just happy to be getting money and could care less about people’s reasoning. Do we really expect an organization who exhibits no moral standards itself to care about the moral or racial standards of someone who wishes to donate money to it?
I detest PP and what it stands for but this is just another example of how a reporter can angle a story however he wants. I could have the same facts in front of me and report it differently. It’s a good emotional piece to stir up controversy on a non-issue. The real issue is people are donating money to kill babies from ALL races. So not only should the black population be outraged but all races should be.
Prior to the inception of PP, there was a different form of ‘planned parenthood’. It was called it ~NO TV~, back then. The difference was, we were planning on the joy of bringing a child into this world and parenting them, rather than the opposite. Even the practice sessions were well received. Thats back when Comerica Bank was affectionately called, Com Rica (sic) Bank, and Sil–via was an “s” word. (miss ya Terri).
Welcome back to the fray, Paul.
Paul,
First, I’m not bent on defending planned parenthood. I’m attacking an act of racism by Lila Rose and her “actor,” yet another couple of rabid “good Christians” who know what’s best for those poor heathen black people. This commercial is indefensible racism.
You said: “The donor made his intentions very clear. He was not giving the money to help an underpriviledged minority. He specifically asked if his donation would be accepted and used solely for the abortion of black babies so that his own (white) son would have less competition because of affirmative action.”
And the victims of this charage, the sitting-duck low-level employees and volunteers at planned parenthood, made clear that they didn’t support his racism, but they’d take his money to help minorities who needed help. If he’s that stupid, why should they not remove money from the pockets of a racist to help good people in need?
The makers of this commercial are flaming hypocrites for questioning ANYONE’S ethics. Believe me, I get it that you all think anyone who supports abortion rights is unredeemably evil and deserves any bad thing that happens to them. I think you’re wrong, but I get it. You can make your point, however, without aligning with racists and slanderers masquerading a civil rights advocates.
God Bless you Paul continue to do what you do. As a black man it is sad that no black men are standing up to declare that this truth. Not even the possible first black Presdient. I’m sorry Paul he supports planned parenthood i guess that means he supports killing black babies?
I dont find this information suprising at all, given its Margaret Sanger roots that a proud part of P.P. What is suprising is how they continue to be the abortion powerhouse that they are. You would think that with this issue, and abortion to minors (without reporting the father because of the statutory rape). That some organization like may be a christian group, womens rights or a black organization would be quick to act and legally shut them down. Yet they keep on going like the energizer bunny.
Thank You Paul for bringing our attention to this issue. It is my prayer that they will be shut down.
What an aweful ugly piece against PP. I can’t stand what PP stands for but this youtube video is a poor use of portraying a persons motives, they only wanted MONEY. Get it? I have recently become privy to the smear tactics of the right wing, now that my eyes are opened it obvious the lengths that will be taking to build straw men to easily tear them down.
Paul I saw your article on One”news”now.com about the evangelical left, that is a classic site which builds straw men to easily tear it down.
at least we have a couple of rational voices in the crowd who see this video for what it is, propaganda. No matter your feelings of Planned Parenthood, this video is a prime example of misusing sound bites to paint with a broad brush. First off, the first lady made it clear that she didn’t agree with his motives but would take his money to “help” the black minority; the second lady seemed to be taken back by this person’s comments but was trying to be polite so she didn’t “lose the sale”. You can like or dislike this organization but don’t take stuff out of context like this from, as skeptimal said low level employees, and paint the entire organization as “racist” against black folks. Leave it up to the right wing to try to paint a liberal organization as racist. Thanks skeptimal and pixelmaster for bringing balance to this blog, maybe others will see the light.
This blog is all about balance. We balance the Left’s media spin and coverups of relevant stories like this one. We bring a biblical worldview to bear on the issues of the day and I am not surprised that atheists, agnostics, and lukewarm Christians would be offended by my giving this story the priority it deserves.
The resident liberals and God deniers who I allow to freely post on this blog can spin this anyway they like, but the fact of the matter is this audio demonstrates the amorality of Planned Parenthood and groups like them. “Whatever it takes” to get the sale?? In this case “the sale” results in the death of innocent children. Pixelmaster and Iggy are showing their own amorality by supporting such an outrage.
Exactly,
Do you know what would happen if some leftist organization paid an actor to call an African Christian missions organizations, and stated that he wanted to donate money specifically to convert evil black people to Christianity and they accepted it? It would be all over CNN, MSNBC as a condemnation against the organization… and rightly so! Of course the atheists, agnostics, and liberal Christians on this board would absolutely drool over it. This video IS an outrage, but we must ask who should we be angry at? Even if Planned Parenthood just wanted to make a sale to kill a black baby, don’t you think such a hate criminal who plans murders of black children for ethnic cleansing should be considered dangerous and reported? I think the outrage should go to Planned Parenthood, and any anger at the people exposing the corruption of the organization (whether it is just greed, or rascism) is a classic case of shoot the messenger.
I want to be clear to all that think that I am being “amoral”. I would never give a dime to PP, I don’t support abortion, however, I am able to recognize spin when I see it. This video is an example of spin. As I stated, the first operator made it clear she didn’t support what the person was saying, and I am willing to bet that the second, if asked would not either. You could tell in the way she was responding to him that she didn’t want to miss out on the transaction. I am sure it was a pragmatic approach for this young lady. But to paint the whole organization as “racist” because this person put the operators on the spot is just plain ridiculous. You can be for or against PP but don’t buy into this kind of spin.
BTW, thanks Paul for keeping the balance on this blog, and allow dissenting voices from the Christian right to speak truth.
” lukewarm Christians” huh? It seems that the Pharisees of Jesus day will just never learn, they walked around in judgment of everyone else because they had more piety then everyone else. I made it clear that I can’t stand what Planned Parenthood is about but that the video itself is an awful example of truth. I hope that on the Day of Judgment those who walk around judging everyone else are not in for a big surprise.
The Bible is quite clear that being a Christian is having a heart for God, I am sure that many of us here will put the biblical spin on the details but that is the crux of it. Since it is a condition of the heart and no one can know the heart of man then it would stand to reason that labeling a fellow Christian as “lukewarm” would violate the biblical call for judgment of others in the book of Matthew. I follow Jesus’ command of love the Lord with all your heart sole mind and strength and love your neighbor as yourself. This includes the poor, this includes my Islamic neighbors that are suffering because of preemptive war by the neocons in our government, this mean atheist who have a God given right not to believe in anything. Christianity was hijacked by the religious right and have turn good into bad, and evil into good. Imposing our morals on a society is not an action that Jesus encouraged, Jesus was about changing hearts and minds one by one. Do I believe fundamentally that every word in scripture is literally true, I think there is much of it as allegory of a universal truth. I have a hard time with Genesis 1.1 taking place 6 or 10 thousands years ago as the beginning of everything. It takes a whole lot of faith to turn off your mind and blindly follow that thinking, there is too much hard facts to dispute it. I have heard some say were God put these “facts” in creation, then you would have to think that God is deceiving us, and why would he do that if he cannot lie? So, I guess if Paul calls me lukewarm, I would rather he be the one spitting me out of his mouth than Jesus because Jesus is the one that knows my heart and motives.
Paul said: “The resident liberals and God deniers who I allow to freely post on this blog can spin this anyway they like, but the fact of the matter is this audio demonstrates the amorality of Planned Parenthood and groups like them.”
I commend you, as I have in the past, for allowing dissent here, even from us crispy-critters-to-be.
I have no ties with planned parenthood, but I have to believe that if Lila and her “actor” would swift-boat planned parenthood, they’d probably do it to the ACLU, people for the american way, the interfaith alliance, and any other group who disagrees with their rabid hatred of all that is not Evangelical.
Let’s be clear on this. You believe planned parenthood is amoral because you oppose their support for abortion rights. If they *were* racist, I would think that would pale by comparison to their status as mass murderers in your eyes.
If racist Lila and her “actor” cared about black people they wouldn’t have chosen this contemptible tactic. Who, after all, spoke the hateful words? Their real agenda is to to create hatred between two groups they themselves hate: African-Americans and pro-choicers. The only people who are going to buy this slander soup Lila’s dishing out are people who already hate planned pro-choicers as much as you do.
If you want to be angry that people are out there pointing out the flaws in your religion, then go for it, but be angry about real things, not Karl Rove-like straw men.
Thanks Pixelmaster for saying essentially what I was thinking about being lukewarm christians. I think the “liberal” christians in the crowd here have been quite clear that abortion is aweful, and that PP is not an organization that we would support. However, the video itself is a propaganda piece, it puts operators on the spot by some guy who makes some outrageous statements. Then because, these operators may have said the wrong thing then we can assume the whole dang organization as racist. Not buying the koolaid on this one, complete propaganda…..
Thought you might find this interesting; I sent this youtube video to a co-worker, we’ll call him Shaun. Shaun’s in his early twenties, black, male, born, raised, and still lives in Detroit, collage educated, has a good paying job. Here was Shaun’s response to the video:
“Trust me, black people will be alright! For all of the babies that are aborted; there are 4-times as many babies that are being born healthy into this world. The most important thing blacks need to work on is their social environment. Their slicks how conservative are trying to pull the race card to get across their own agenda.”
Propaganda vs facts and reality
P.P. (corp./affilliates/employees with average intellegence) proudly gives( or is aware that the highly publicised) Margaret Sanger award every year (a literal trophy, and dinner). If you do a little research you will find out about Sangers Black genocide agenda. Google it Im not making this up.
I don’t know the hearts of people answering the phones. But this I do know:Employees should be held accountable for the way they conduct themselves on the job and should know a little about the organization they work for.
Did you know that abortion also has it’s roots in Satanic worship witchcraft and the occult. It’s murder it’s evil and from the pit of Hell. Read my blog and see my story on abortion and the terrible decision I was faced with, so I am uniquely qualified to speak on this and I am Multi-National (African American and Indian/Chinese). The bible is plain and simple when it says “thou shall not kill”. After being raped I found out 6wks later I was pregnant and I kept my daughter who is 15 yrs old and the joy of my life.
anointedvessel said “Did you know that abortion also has it’s roots in Satanic worship witchcraft and the occult.” I looked at your blog, sounds like a far fetch to me.
“The bible is plain and simple when it says “thou shall not kill”.” I agree, however, why do many of the most conservative, literal christians support this administration and it’s unjust war in Iraq? The Bible talks a lot more about loving your neighbor than it does waging war on other religious faiths. Of course, unless you want to go to the Old Testament, then we can open up a whole other can of worms.
Pixelmaster,
1.) Do you believe that war is always wrong? 2.) Do you realize that people who support the war, do so because they are convinced it is justified based upon the evidence, and not because they just love killing 3.) Do you really think that this war is against other religions?
Obviously the last two question will be irrelevant if you answer yes to question one.
I think that war is justified ONLY when all factors of the just war theory have been exhausted. Take a look at those factors and you realize that this administration jumped the gun, add to that the mountains of evidence that has come out about the lies told to get us into war and it becomes quite evident that this war is wrong. Study up on the NeoCons that are in office, John W Dean has 3 books on this topic, read Jeremy Scahill’s Blackwater, Frank Rich, The Greatest story ever sold. Be willing to open a book that is not by a right wing pundit and see if you might change your thoughts on what is happening over there. You have to understand I used to be hard right, I used to LOVE FoxNews, I used to listen to the host of this blog and all the other right wingers. I used to think that being a “real” christian meant that you need to be republican and takes stand on all the republican wedge issues. I don’t know when it changed for me but I started to question the merger of church and state with the Republican Party and the hard right religious groups. Over time, with research, I have come to reject it and have become more “liberal” or as Paul would put it “lukewarm”.
To answer your following questions, 2. I think that too many people, especially in the church, don’t question authority, they look at this war as something God approves because his leaders justify it. 3. I think with the quotes of Falwell and Robertson in the past, many people might think it is a war of faiths.
One final thing, I think the termology of this needs to change, we are not at War in Iraq, we are occupying a nation. The “war” ended when Bush declared it so on the USS Abraham Lincoln.
Pixelmaster,
You speak as though the God of the Old Testement is a different God than the God of the New Tesiment, or that He has some how changed?
Ok Pixelmaster,
Thanks for clearing that up. By the way I hate Foxnews, and I don’t consider myself a committed republican. And I used to be obsessed with conspiracy theorist books and videos, I have read a huge range of views concerning politics however the subject doesn’t interest me as much as it used to.
Reconcile the God of Leviticus 20 with what you serve……..It seems as maybe our understanding of God has shifted as anyone who adopts the concepts of the old testament would be considered loony.
Colin,
To clear things up for me as well, I have found your opinions on this site more thoughtful than the standard christian reactionary view of things. Group hug?
BTW, I am a fellow conspiracy theorist as well. I think many are overblown but many exist because plausible answers and proper accountablity are never exhausted, especially when people in authority “investigate” themselves. JFK, Oklahoma ‘95, 9/11
Pixelmaster,
John Wycliffe’s golden rule of interpreting Scripture:
It shall greatly help thee to understand Scripture,
if thou mark not only what is spoken or written,
but of whom and to whom, with what words at what time,
where and to what intent, with what circumstances
considering what goeth before and what followeth.
Leviticus is one of the books of law, do you know to whom the law was given, and why the law was given?
Romans 3:23
For ALL have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Romans 6:23a
For the wages of sin is DEATH;
Read Romans . . . and if you say you’ve read it, read it again.
Read Genesis 25:29-33 where Jacob took advantage of Esau.
Read Genesis 27:15-30 where Jacob deceives his own father in order to receive his brother’s birthright.
Malachi 1:2-3a I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob’s brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob, And I hated Esau,
Now the big question isn’t why did God hate Esau, but why did God love Jacob?
Re-read Romans . . . He’s the same God that wrote Leviticus and the same God I humbly serve.
Signed,
Loony ; )
Pixelmaster,
We have gone through this several times… Let me break it down… God made a covenant with Adam in the garden that he was not to disobey God, and that if he did he would die physically and spiritually… This is called the covenant of works, which was broken and which we are all condemned under not just because of Adam’s sin, but because of our own compounded sins, hence why Revelation says that the damned are judged according to their ‘works’… God also made a promise to Adam and Eve that a segment of their descendants would be elect and that a deliverer would come through them to deliver them which is also called the covenant of Grace. The covenants to Noah, Abraham, David, and the New Covenant are extensions of the covenant of grace, whereas the covenant made through Moses was an extension of the covenant of works, however not as a way of salvation but to show us why we need it… As galatians 3:24 tells us the Law was our school master to bring us to Christ, and also was put in place to restrain sin. The entire Law of Moses was to create a national identity for Israel that through types (sacrificial system, priesthood, land blessings) would shadow the work of Christ and blessings that would come through him. However, this covenant was based upon the covenant that God made by a promise to Abraham which did not depend upon obedience in Genesis 15. Hence Galatians tells us that this covenant is not nullified by the covenant made 430 years later to Moses, and now that Christ has come the covenant at Sinai is no longer binding. Due to the fact that pre-Christian Israel was to shadow Christ and heaven it included such demands as a society that did not tolerate any sin, just as sin will not be tolerated in Heaven and in God’s presence. So no, I have not promise reconciling the two at all.
Pixelmaster,
I still enjoy your posts. You always seem so clear-thinking, but that’s probably just because I almost always agree with you.
Thanks skeptimal, although, according to the right wing conservative hand book, I shouldn’t take that as a complement because according to scripture atheist are nonthinking devil worshipers. And of course, there is the pet scripture that says “the fool hath said in his heart there is no God” so you are a fool too according to the good book. But since I have been labeled in this thread as a “lukewarm” Christian, because I am more “liberal” than many here are then I will take you words to me with a simple Thank You.
I don’t think I will ever declare atheism as a worldview but certainly will never be a fundamentalist again either, especially the band who has made their bed with the political right.
Colin,
I have heard that explanation for years, I grew up in a fundamentalist environment. I have recent taken on the attitude of questioning the “line” given by fundamentalist.
Once your eyes become open to the lies of a group of people to protect a worldview then you begin to question everything. I pray that God views my endevour as a since search for truth.
I think that once you break from the subculture of fundamentalism and specifically the religious right it then becomes easy to see the tactics right wing, as is the case with this video. I can agree with pixelmaster and the source of this video that abortion is an aweful thing, however, I disagree with the methods of the video to paint the organization as racists because some jerk catches a couple of operators off guard. I don’t like what has become of my faith, I think the protectors of it have gone too far in their attempts to keep the faith pure and unblemished. The lying in Jesus’ name is unquestionably the worst thing that a person can do to the faith. I stand for truth even if it conflicts with the scriptures that form the basis of the faith. Pixelmaster, keep the comments coming, I enjoy them, same for you sketimal, even though, as pixelmaster said, you are a “nonthinking devil worshiper”
Be careful boys. You may make sport of someone out of your league.
John 17:17
Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
Pixelmaster,
When I first got saved I was a KJV-only dispensational Baptist, so I am familiar with the background. I was hurt pretty bad by such churches and theology, but that doesn’t give me an excuse to attack the Bible and side with atheists. By the way my explanation of leviticus was NOT based off dispensationalism, which teaches that Israel is God’s plan A where as the church is His plan B, and therefore since we are plan B we can brush plan A aside. I was using a consistent reformed covenantal hermeneutic.
“Once your eyes become open to the lies of a group of people to protect a worldview then you begin to question everything.”
Be careful dude, you may be being decieved in your perceptions…
“You will not surely die,” the serpent said to the woman. “For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” (Gen. 3:4-5)
Paul,
Come on man, the PP gimic is a bad stunt to combat a sin that only the love of God spoken in truth can solve and will judge. The
Lila Rose call was well intentioned, immature and misguided. This will hurt the Right to Life cause more than it will help. Please, drop it off your site cuz this glaring poor judgment on your part marginalizes you and The Word by which you are called.